Ventura County Star Profile on Turner

[I'mwithya]

Go Joseph Turner!
I believe we are going to turn illegal immigration around with Joe!

:D

[1inchgroup]

Nice post OC, nice interview Preach / SOS!

Does this mean we're kicking in doors now? I'll wear my steel toes.

:D

[Sandinator]

Baca is such a hypocrite. She of all people has no room to talk about others using "inciteful" words. She wrote the book on that topic.

[Drumsme7]

"This is a person who is a racist," Lozano said. He questions why Turner comes so far for protests. "Why doesn't Joseph Turner just go home." No Lozano, that's what the American people have been doing for decades, they've just been "going home". Well, that's over. We won't "go home" anymore. This is our HOME! It's only a matter of time, then we'll send you & your ilk home, back to Mexico. You don't represent Americans, you reconquista punk, you represent the radical fringe group. Your time in office is short. Do you truly believe that you'll be able to continue your little fiefdom made up of illegal aliens & their Marxist supporters? Enjoy your third world banana republic while you can

[walkingtall]

Sawyer said many people involved in the anti-illegal-immigration movement are conservatives who don't like paying taxes.

Clarification Mr. Sawyer, I don't like paying taxes that go unchecked and support criminal immigrants and welfare cheats. I'm all for paying taxes that are properly accounted for and benefit those for whom they are intended.

[Rudedog]

We need more people like Joe I met him at BP2 I was there he is not a Racists. He makes a great leader keep up the good work JOE America is waking up slowly to this B****hit.
Lozano ang Baca are full of crap they are the real Racists.
BP3 ?????????
Hit them were it hurts the most!!!!!

[Murron]

"The American people, I believe if you will lead them, if you are willing to take all the crap, if you are willing to take the brunt of the attack, if you are willing to be called a racist, willing to risk your personal safety, all that stuff, I think the American people will follow you through the door if you break it down." -- Joseph Turner

"Fellow Citizens and Compatriots, I am besieged by a thousand or more Mexicans under Santa Anna. The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise the garrison are to be put to the sword. I have answered the demand with a CANNON SHOT & our flag still waves proudly from the walls. I shall never surrender or retreat. <span style='color:red'>VICTORY OR DEATH"! - Col. William Travis - Alamo, March, 1836 </span>

Murron

[Murron]

"Sawyer said many people involved in the anti-illegal-immigration movement are conservatives who don't like paying taxes".

Not Yours to Give!

Excerpt:

Rep. Tenn., Davy Crockett: When riding one day in a part of my district in which I was more of a stranger than any other, I saw a man in a field plowing and coming toward the road. I gauged my gait so that we should meet as he came up, I spoke to the man. He replied politely, but as I thought, rather coldly.

"I began: 'Well friend, I am one of those unfortunate beings called candidates and-

"Yes I know you; you are Colonel Crockett. I have seen you once before, and voted for you the last time you were elected. I suppose you are out electioneering now, but you had better not waste your time or mine, I shall not vote for you again."
"This was a sockdolger...I begged him tell me what was the matter.

"Well Colonel, it is hardly worthwhile to waste time or words upon it. I do not see how it can be mended, but you gave a vote last winter which shows that either you have not capacity to understand the Constitution, or that you are wanting in the honesty and firmness to be guided by it. In either case you are not the man to represent me. But I beg your pardon for expressing it that way. I did not intend to avail myself of the privilege of the constituent to speak plainly to a candidate for the purpose of insulting you or wounding you.'

"I intend by it only to say that your understanding of the constitution is very different from mine; and I will say to you what but for my rudeness, I should not have said, that I believe you to be honest.

But an understanding of the constitution different from mine I cannot overlook, because the Constitution, to be worth anything, must be held sacred, and rigidly observed in all its provisions. The man who wields power and misinterprets it is the more dangerous the honest he is.'

"I admit the truth of all you say, but there must be some mistake. Though I live in the backwoods and seldom go from home, I take the papers from Washington and read very carefully all the proceedings of Congress. My papers say you voted for a bill to appropriate $20,000 to some sufferers by fire in Georgetown. Is that true?

"Well my friend; I may as well own up. You have got me there. But certainly nobody will complain that a great and rich country like ours should give the insignificant sum of $20,000 to relieve its suffering women and children, particularly with a full and overflowing treasury, and I am sure, if you had been there, you would have done just the same as I did.'

"It is not the amount, Colonel, that I complain of; it is the principle. In the first place, the government ought to have in the Treasury no more than enough for its legitimate purposes. But that has nothing with the question. The power of collecting and disbursing money at pleasure is the most dangerous power that can be entrusted to man, particularly under our system of collecting revenue by a tariff, which reaches every man in the country, no matter how poor he may be, and the poorer he is the more he pays in proportion to his means.

What is worse, it presses upon him without his knowledge where the weight centers, for there is not a man in the United States who can ever guess how much he pays to the government. So you see, that while you are contributing to relieve one, you are drawing it from thousands who are even worse off than he.

If you had the right to give anything, the amount was simply a matter of discretion with you, and you had as much right to give $20,000,000 as $20,000. If you have the right to give at all; and as the Constitution neither defines charity nor stipulates the amount, you are at liberty to give to any and everything which you may believe, or profess to believe, is a charity and to any amount you may think proper. You will very easily perceive what a wide door this would open for fraud and corruption and favoritism, on the one hand, and for robbing the people on the other. 'No, Colonel, Congress has no right to give charity.'

"Individual members may give as much of their own money as they please, but they have no right to touch a dollar of the public money for that purpose. If twice as many houses had been burned in this country as in Georgetown, neither you nor any other member of Congress would have Thought of appropriating a dollar for our relief. There are about two hundred and forty members of Congress. If they had shown their sympathy for the sufferers by contributing each one week's pay, it would have made over $13,000. There are plenty of wealthy men around Washington who could have given $20,000 without depriving themselves of even a luxury of life.'

"The congressmen chose to keep their own money, which, if reports be true, some of them spend not very creditably; and the people about Washington, no doubt, applauded you for relieving them from necessity of giving what was not yours to give. The people have delegated to Congress, by the Constitution, the power to do certain things. To do these, it is authorized to collect and pay moneys, and for nothing else. Everything beyond this is usurpation, and a violation of the Constitution.'

"So you see, Colonel, you have violated the Constitution in what I consider a vital point. It is a precedent fraught with danger to the country, for when Congress once begins to stretch its power beyond the limits of the Constitution, there is no limit to it, and no security for the people. I have no doubt you acted honestly, but that does not make it any better, except as far as you are personally concerned, and you see that I cannot vote for you." /snip

Murron

[Cat Patrol]

Only a handful are from county

Only a handful of the 700 people who Turner says are registered on his Web site are from Ventura County. And even those who live in the county who side with him wonder about his methods.


What sort of asanine comment was this? What does it have to do with the price of tea in China?

[I'mwithya]

Originally posted by Cat Patrol@Jul 8 2005, 05:03 PM
Only a handful are from county

Only a handful of the 700 people who Turner says are registered on his Web site are from Ventura County. And even those who live in the county who side with him wonder about his methods.


What sort of asanine comment was this? What does it have to do with the price of tea in China?
I am so glad Mayor La Raza, I mean Mayor Lozano is being sued!

The racist anti-American creep!

[Sandinator]

Originally posted by Cat Patrol@Jul 8 2005, 06:03 PM
Only a handful are from county

Only a handful of the 700 people who Turner says are registered on his Web site are from Ventura County. And even those who live in the county who side with him wonder about his methods.


What sort of asanine comment was this? What does it have to do with the price of tea in China?
I wondered why he brought that up too? Who gives a flying farfel.

[I'mwithya]

Originally posted by Sandinator+Jul 8 2005, 09:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sandinator @ Jul 8 2005, 09:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Cat Patrol@Jul 8 2005, 06:03 PM
Only a handful are from county

Only a handful of the 700 people who Turner says are registered on his Web site are from Ventura County. And even those who live in the county who side with him wonder about his methods.


What sort of asanine comment was this? What does it have to do with the price of tea in China?
I wondered why he brought that up too? Who gives a flying farfel. [/b][/quote]
The opposition is feeling the heat!

And so are the big Corportations-----our true enemies!

[BadMonkey]

I wonder if the word "Racist" could be construed as harrassment, like calling someone a n-----r, or *******. You dont hear PUBLIC officials using n-----r (for the most part) or *******, c---k,------------ racist if your white. It s a "stereotype, and is unPC. I think there should be court action for SLANDER...



Calling someone a racist is SLANDER,............get the LAWYER, please, especially when its a PUBLIC (racist) figure......


What say?????

[BorderRaven]

I saw it here:
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/07/131922.php

Can't beat free publicity, even if the oposition, is spreading it too.

:lol:

[BorderRaven]

Originally posted by I'mwithya+Jul 8 2005, 05:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (I'mwithya @ Jul 8 2005, 05:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Cat Patrol@Jul 8 2005, 05:03 PM
Only a handful are from county

Only a handful of the 700 people who Turner says are registered on his Web site are from Ventura County. And even those who live in the county who side with him wonder about his methods.


What sort of asanine comment was this? What does it have to do with the price of tea in China?
I am so glad Mayor La Raza, I mean Mayor Lozano is being sued!

The racist anti-American creep! [/b][/quote]
yeah, but $1,000,000?

It should have been ofr $50,000,000 to allow for bargaining.