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Drumsme7
07-18-2005, 08:50 AM
Immigrant Workers Are
Curbside Attraction for Activists

By MIRIAM JORDAN
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
July 18, 2005; Page B1

They stand on street corners and in parking lots, waiting for builders or homeowners to drive by with an offer of a day's work cutting grass or nailing wallboard.

The number of immigrant day laborers is rising fast on the heels of the construction boom. Immigrants who lack permanent employment, relying instead on jobs that may change from one day to the next, are a fixture of the U.S. economy, numbering as many as one million nationwide, according to advocacy groups. A substantial number of these workers -- no one knows how many -- are in the U.S. illegally.

It falls chiefly to individual communities to manage this labor pool and related issues of public safety and quality of life. Some municipalities have responded by opening hiring halls for day laborers; others have banned curbside soliciting. Now, the issue is becoming a magnet for activist groups on both sides of the broader political debate over immigration.


A protest against immigrant day laborers at a Home Depot in Alhambra, Calif., last month.


Last month in Victorville, Calif., an anti-immigrant group called SaveOurState.org picketed a Home Depot Inc. store where day laborers congregate, while members of human-rights groups counterprotested across the street. "The debate about immigration is happening at this level -- in our neighborhoods," says Pablo Alvarado, national coordinator of the National Day Labor Organizing Network, an immigrant-rights group based in Los Angeles. Similar demonstrations have recently taken place in other cities in California and elsewhere.

Up to 25,000 day laborers gather every day at more than 100 points across Los Angeles County, according to the Center for the Study of Urban Poverty at the University of California, Los Angeles. In the New York metropolitan area, the second-largest market for these job seekers, up to 15,000 people gather at about 60 points.

An estimated 80 day-labor centers operate in the U.S., and three-quarters of them have opened in the past five to seven years, according to a study set for release in September by Abel Valenzuela Jr., professor of Chicano studies and urban planning at UCLA, and Nik Theodore, director of the Center for Urban Economic Development at the University of Illinois, Chicago. Many of the centers are operated jointly by local governments and community groups. The centers are "a burgeoning policy response to the day-labor issue across the country," says Prof. Valenzuela.

Proponents of day-laborer centers say they offer a practical solution to community problems such as traffic jams and public urination associated with the laborer pickup points, and also help protect workers from being exploited. "What we are trying to fix is casual labor standing on the street to seek work. We can't fix the immigration laws of this country," says Ellen Kaminsky, a supporter of a day-labor center in Herndon, Va., proposed by a coalition of religious groups, nonprofits and businesses.

Critics say the centers provide services to illegal immigrants who are taking jobs away from Americans, and also help employers who cheat the government of tax revenue by paying workers off the books. "We should not be helping those who entered this country without following the rules," says Ann Hull, a town council member from Herndon who opposes the day center.

Some efforts to accommodate day laborers have overcome resistance. In Baltimore, the city council has adopted a resolution in support of the idea of a day-labor center, although funding hasn't been hammered out. Council President Sheila Dixon says a bill establishing guidelines for hiring day laborers is expected to be introduced in August.

A church in Duluth, Ga., lends space where day workers can go to solicit work; the Duluth Police Department issues laminated identification cards to the workers, legal and illegal alike. Many don't object to giving their names to law-enforcement authorities. "It's all organized and safe," says Col. Brian Carney, deputy chief of police, who says he has been fielding calls from other towns interested in the program.

But in Arizona, state legislators in May voted to ban cities from funding day-labor centers, on the grounds that they enable employers to hire illegal immigrants. And in Costa Mesa, Calif., the city council voted this year to close a day-laborer center that opened in 1988. The closing has been postponed twice: Local churches and community groups have asked for time to come up with an alternative to the current facility. Closing is currently set for Dec. 31.

In Herndon, a town of 22,000 in Virginia's wealthy Fairfax County, the coalition Project Hope and Harmony wants to open a hiring center on the current site of a police station. Today as many as 150 immigrant day-laborers gather at a 7-Eleven parking lot. Herndon's mayor and six of its seven town council members support the project, and the county has offered to contribute public funds to it.

A public hearing last week drew 250 people, who spilled out of the Herndon municipal center's chambers into the lobby and side rooms, where they watched the proceedings on TV screens. A handful of protestors marched outside.

Among the Herndon center's opponents is the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a Washington, D.C.-based group that last year promoted Arizona's Proposition 200, which seeks to restrict undocumented immigrants from obtaining a range of public services. Mike Hethmon, a staff attorney for the group, says it has contacted Herndon residents opposing the center and put town officials on notice that the plan could violate laws against aiding illegal immigrants. "One of my goals is to bring ... the first court challenge against the operation of these sites," Mr. Hethmon says. "We go in, find people who feel hurt and assist them."

Some centers have won major corporate backers. In March, the city of Houston, responding to a community group request, agreed to disburse $90,000 in federal grant money for a day-labor center east of downtown. Bank of America Corp. contributed an additional $50,000 to help fund services for the immigrant workers; some local banks donated furniture. Employee volunteers from Exxon Mobil Corp. painted and cleaned the building. "It's better for the neighborhood that workers are inside. It's better for the workers," says Broderick Bagert, an organizer for the group, the Metropolitan Organization of the Industrial Areas Foundation.

Since opening two months ago, the East End Worker Center has registered some 120 men who used to congregate on a street corner about a block away. Now, contractors looking for workers drive up. They don't have to register; some don't get out of their trucks. To deter unscrupulous employers, a coordinator at the center notes their license-plate numbers. There are plans to begin offering free English and personal-finance classes, as well as legal advice, at the center.

Alberto Calderón, an undocumented immigrant from Colombia who has been in the U.S. for eight years, was among the job seekers on a recent morning. In a good week, he earns up to $300, mainly in painting and carpentry jobs. Before the center opened, Mr. Calderón would wait for work under a tree if it was raining or hot. Now, he has access to chairs, water, coffee -- and a bathroom. Says Mr. Calderón, "We are comfortable and very grateful for this place."

Write to Miriam Jordan at miriam.jordan@wsj.com

Drumsme7
07-18-2005, 09:11 AM
My reply to Miriam Jordan.................... "So Miriam, you like to call yourself a journalist? I thought that journalists were supposed to get their facts straight? "Last month in Victorville, Calif., an anti-immigrant group called SaveOurState.org picketed a Home Depot Inc. store" SaveOurState is an anti-immigrant group? Hmm, that's funny, they have American citizens, native born & immigrant alike, of all races & creeds among their membership. They're an anti-ILLEGAL immigration group, got it? Now, whether you're an open borders, anti-law zealot or not, (your pro-illegal fluff piece seems to bear this out) you, as a professional journalist should know that getting your "facts" straight is one of the first rules of journalism. Did you research the group first before writing your piece? Or did your ideology get in the way as you wrote? You see Miriam, even if you're writing about something that doesn't fit into your belief system, you must use factual information. In the future, I'd suggest you research what you're writing about. You do a disservice to your readership & your profession alike when you assume or spin things in a way that fit with your politics. SOS is an anti-ILLEGAL immigration group. You'd best remember that"

Kathy58
07-18-2005, 09:14 AM
A site at a police station! YES. I love it. City hall too. Let's see how they like it. Of course the police cars will be gridlocked unable to leave the parking lot. Oh yes, yes yes.

sosal
07-18-2005, 09:40 AM
They can put their spin on it, but in spite of the slanted press, the anti illegal immigrant movement is growing.

Sandinator
07-18-2005, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Drumsme7@Jul 18 2005, 07:50 AM
Immigrant Workers Are
Curbside Attraction for Activists

By MIRIAM JORDAN
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
July 18, 2005; Page B1


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Last month in Victorville, Calif., an anti-immigrant group called SaveOurState.org picketed a Home Depot Inc. store where day laborers congregate, while members of human-rights groups counterprotested across the street. "
Look Ma! My rally made the Wall Street Journal!!!!

SaveOurState
07-18-2005, 01:19 PM
Yes, Sandi.

Thank you for all the hardwork you put in with respect to VV. As an aside, anytime you can get published in the WSJ, it is a positive thing. We arent trying to convert...we are simply trying to throw up a flag and show Americans that you can stand up to this invasion.

It is okay...you arent a racist, etc.

Uhhuh35
07-18-2005, 01:25 PM
Ya' know, I've been a faithfull reader of the wall street journal for some time now, maybe I should stop. This piece I read today was an obvious pro-illegal story. Of course I'm pro business but not at the expense of American jobs. When you see the obvious bias in this story I can only imagine:
"What else are they lying about?"
In todays edition there is also another story about the economic problems in Mexico, the wage gap between rich and poor and the lack of upward mobility for Mexicans. One guy in Mexico was saving money so that he could be smuggled into the US for a better job. No mention of the consequences of breaking the law, didn't seem to matter in the story.
Very disappointing. :(

AyatollahGondola
07-18-2005, 02:02 PM
Look Ma! My rally made the Wall Street Journal!!!!

I am already telling people "I know her"

Binh
07-18-2005, 05:49 PM
She blows it right off the start by saying "immigrant day laborers". Man I hate that, when someone makes Hispanic illegal aliens equal to Vietnamese legal immigrants.

Ms. Jordan, you are a racist!!!

Sandinator
07-18-2005, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by AyatollahGondola@Jul 18 2005, 01:02 PM
Look Ma! My rally made the Wall Street Journal!!!!

I am already telling people "I know her"
:D
Ayatollah, your people skills are such that you could easily win on one of those reality shows. Or even have your own reality show!

I see it now:

Ayatollah Island Survivor. :D ;)

Or:

Big Brother Ayatollah! :P


I know off topic but please forgive me. Wall Street Journal and all, I love 'em. There back on track.

lance_sjogren
07-18-2005, 08:57 PM
Hey, thanks for posting that stuff. Wall Street Journal has the audacity to charge money for excrement!

Sandinator
07-18-2005, 09:02 PM
I like the WSJ <_<

lance_sjogren
07-18-2005, 09:06 PM
But actually that was as close as evenhanded as anything you will find in the Wall Street Journal.

For those of you who are not familiar, the Wall Street Journal editorial staff has written some of the most extreme hate speech against immigration reformers of anything you can find in the media.

They haven't done it much lately (as far as I know, I don't normally get a look at it because I do not pay good money for excrement). Even though one could figure a lot of their readers are right wing open borders types, I suspect a good many of their readers actually support immigration reform.

So I have a feeling they've been cooling their jets lately. Especially if they have recognized that there is an immigration reform tidal wave emerging and do they really want to be on the losing side of history on that. Or at least, to be a symbol of the establishment and suffer the embarrassment of having been overthrown in a popular uprising.

But for those who aren't familiar, do some google searches and take a look at some of the absolute filth that the Wall Street Journal has written on immigration.

You can probably find something by typing the keywords:

Wall Street Journal Xenophobic Nativist

lance_sjogren
07-18-2005, 09:26 PM
As I was googling

"Wall Street Journal Xenophobic Nativist"


I stumbled on this article by Michael Lind:


http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/colu...97/09/lind.html (http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/1997/09/lind.html)




Lind is one of a small handful of people on the left that recognize that the immigration policies advocated by the left are actually contrary to the very values that the left claims to believe in.

William
07-18-2005, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by Sandinator@Jul 18 2005, 07:02 PM
I like the WSJÂ* <_<
IBD (Investor's Business Daily) is much better. I've even seen pro-immigration reform articles in IBD!

WSJ is run by the Treason Lobby and Race-Replacers. Not an issue goes by where you don't see articles by invasion cheerleaders. I even corresponded briefly via e-mail with two female journalists who wrote a pro-invasion article earlier this year. They seemed genuinely shocked that Americans would actually have the nerve to question immigration policy and the Third Worldization of the US.

When I called recently to cancel my subscription to WSJ, I told the woman on the other end that it was due to the paper's pro-immigration invasion stance. She sighed heavily, and without missing a beat asked for my details and confirmed the cancellation. She must get that a lot. :D

If you subscribe to WSJ, cancel. We need to hit the globalists & open borders crowd where it hurts: in the wallet.

Sandinator
07-18-2005, 11:22 PM
I make no excuses for my partiality to WSJ....it goes back to my college days as an Econ Major.

lance_sjogren
07-19-2005, 01:06 AM
I must admit that their business news is first rate, and I'd read a WSJ if one was lying around, but their editorial staff is so shameless that my conscience won't permit me to ever buy a copy.

Raymond
07-19-2005, 01:10 PM
Bank of America Corp. contributed an additional $50,000 to help fund services for the immigrant workers; some local banks donated furniture.

Of course Band of America and the other banks threw in money and donations. They make their investment back many times over when the illegals that they've empowered to stay here illegally open bank accounts with the easily forged Matricula Consular ID cards, and even more money on fees when the illegals wire the money home to Mexico/other home country. That's money taken OUT of the U.S. economy. $50,000 donation? That's no big deal. That's only a small fraction of the money it takes for the banks to buy off various key Congressmen, whom vote to allow the use of these ID cards in the first place. Just ask Rep. David Dreier.

Raymond
07-20-2005, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by lance_sjogren@Jul 18 2005, 07:06 PM
For those of you who are not familiar, the Wall Street Journal editorial staff has written some of the most extreme hate speech against immigration reformers of anything you can find in the media.

They haven't done it much lately (as far as I know, I don't normally get a look at it because I do not pay good money for excrement). Even though one could figure a lot of their readers are right wing open borders types, I suspect a good many of their readers actually support immigration reform.

So I have a feeling they've been cooling their jets lately. Especially if they have recognized that there is an immigration reform tidal wave emerging and do they really want to be on the losing side of history on that. Or at least, to be a symbol of the establishment and suffer the embarrassment of having been overthrown in a popular uprising.
You spoke too soon. Check out the pro-open borders "Fortress America?" in today's Wall Street Journal Opinion section. I can't find a copy online (it requires you give money to these sell-outs of America, which I won't do), but here's an excerpt from Free Republic (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1446674/posts).

WSJ: Fortress America? - Enforcement alone won't stop illegal immigration.
Wall Street Journal ^ | July 20, 2005 | Editorial

Posted on 07/20/2005 5:35:48 AM PDT by OESY

...After nearly 20 years and numerous enforcement escalations, the undocumented immigrant population continues to grow -- and restrictionist lawmakers continue to insist that throwing ever more money, men and material into border enforcement is the key to fixing the problem.

Yesterday, Senators John Cornyn (R., Texas) and Jon Kyl (R., Ariz.) introduced legislation that would authorize $5 billion over five years "to acquire and deploy unmanned aerial vehicles, camera poles, vehicles barriers, sensors" and other technologies. They'd also create a new 10,000-man army to raid businesses across America and make sure there are no illegal chambermaids working at Marriott. For this, we need Republicans?

Never mind that since 1986 the U.S. strategy of spending more and more money on militarizing the border hasn't worked. According to a recent Cato Institute study by Princeton sociologist Douglas Massey, "By 2002, the Border Patrol's budget had reached $1.6 billion and that of the [Immigration and Naturalization Service] stood at $6.2 billion, 10 and 13 times their 1986 values, respectively."

Over the same 16-year period, the number of border patrol officers tripled, and the amount of hours spent patrolling the border increased by a factor of eight. By 2002, Professor Massey notes, "the Border Patrol was the largest arms-bearing branch of the U.S. government next to the military itself."

Meanwhile, the illegal immigration flow has only increased, and all of this extra "enforcement" is arguably one reason. When illegals felt they could more easily cross the border, they'd enter the U.S. on a seasonal... basis or when they needed the money. Then they'd often return home. But with the difficulty of re-entry so much higher in the last 20 years, many more migrant workers choose to remain here permanently. The risk of staying is lower than the price of re-running the border gantlet....

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...

lance_sjogren
07-20-2005, 08:32 PM
They're right, enforcement alone isn't the answer.


Deportation is also needed.

lance_sjogren
07-20-2005, 08:33 PM
By the way:

Glad you're not spending any money on that excrement that goes by the name Wall Street Journal.

William
07-20-2005, 09:58 PM
The WSJ is a waste of time & money. It's filth. It is the house organ of the GOP Treason Lobby. :rant:

Binh
07-21-2005, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by William@Jul 20 2005, 07:58 PM
The WSJ is a waste of time & money. It's filth. It is the house organ of the GOP Treason Lobby. :rant:
I think it is the other way around. The globalization mafia controls both the Wall Street Journal and the GOP treason lobby. Many times they both say the same thing. I am sure a lot of this is coming from the Globalization Institute at Yale University, which is headed by former Mexican President Cedillo.

Although in this latest case of Kyl and Cornyn, it seems a few politicians are worried about their jobs, as the people are really getting pissed, and thus the globalization mafia is getting worried their plans might be derailed, as evidenced by their idiotic WSJ editorial. They try to make it sound like 10 million foreign criminal "chambermaids" are not a problem.

We need to keep the pressure on those that fund globalization, including Home Depot of course.

It would also be nice if the east coasters protested in front of the WSJ.

lance_sjogren
07-21-2005, 10:56 PM
Believe that's Zedillo.


It does seem that people with names that end with "edillo" tend to be lowlifes.