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1inchgroup
07-31-2005, 01:53 PM
OC Register Article (http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/07/31/sections/local/local/article_617264.php)

SOUTH: Day-labor site protested
About 150 people nearly came to blows in Laguna Beach during dispute over illegal immigration.

By SUSAN GILL VARDON and ELIZABETH BROTHERTON
The Orange County Register

LAGUNA BEACH – A protest near a day-labor site stopped just short of violence Saturday, marking another turn in a long-running dispute that touches issues of immigration and race.

About 150 people, some shouting messages decrying illegal immigration and others speaking out in favor of immigrants, nearly came to blows. Police stepped in on several occasions to keep protesters apart. One man was arrested for carrying a concealed dagger, said Laguna Beach Police Sgt. Jason Kravetz.

The protest was the second this month. On July 16, Eileen Garcia and four women she met over the Internet protested the city's decision to use part of its rent from the Sawdust Art Festival to help the Laguna Day Workers Center, a gathering place for workers and people who hire them. Garcia and her partners were joined in front of the festival site by an anti-illegal immigration group, Save Our State, which argued that people who hire workers at the site are breaking federal law. That group was joined by others Saturday.

Many of the protesters said they are motivated by immigration law, not race.

"I'm here because of a security issue," said Angie Ibbotson of Huntington Beach." Ibbotson, the daughter of Filipino immigrants, waved a sign that read "Mr. Bush, do your job."

"We just want to know who (the workers) are, where they are coming from," she said.

But people supporting the workers said Save Our State and other anti-illegal immigration groups are racially motivated. They also defended the need for the center.

"They are working people, and we support and defend their want to make a living," said Alvaro Maldonado, who came to the protest Saturday with 15 other members of the International Socialist Organization.

Emotions were pushed higher near the end of the three-hour protest when two men walked through the crowd carrying swastika flags, a move many Save Our State activists said they opposed.

"I totally disagree with it," said John Gutierrez, an 18-year-old Goldenwest College student. "I told them to put it away."

The conflict was the latest example of how day-labor sites – where workers hire out to do construction, painting or landscaping – are being questioned by foes of illegal immigration. The future of an unrelated site run by the city of Costa Mesa is in question, in part because of protests.

Laguna Beach resident Garcia, who protested in mid-July, didn't turn out Saturday. She said she has disassociated herself from Save Our State.

"I just don't agree with the way they're going to be standing in front of the actual day-labor site," said the 47-year-old homemaker. "We did not confront anybody. We passed out fliers educating people about how the City Council was spending their money."

On June 21, the council awarded $175,000 to 30 nonprofit groups. The money comes from festival rent, which goes into the city's community assistance fund, said Mayor Elizabeth Pearson-Schneider.

Topping the list was the South Orange County Cross Cultural Council. The group, which has operated the hiring center since 1999, got $21,000. Next was the Laguna Beach Relief and Resource Center, which assists victims of the Bluebird Canyon landslide. It got $20,000.

Garcia, who lives three blocks from the slide site, complained to the City Council that the $21,000 would be better spent on slide victims.
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mixbreed
07-31-2005, 02:55 PM
I'm sick of these people. I had to spend $7,000.00 for general liability insurance this year. I can't afford to even hire a trainee. I don't know what the rate is now, but in early 90's for an employee that made less than $19.00 per hour, I would have to pay 33% of what he made to workers compensation, match what he paid in social security. That's all I want to do, is make a living. Why in the hell is it costing so much to do that.

AyatollahGondola
07-31-2005, 02:59 PM
Because they want to drive you out

California Yanqui
07-31-2005, 05:30 PM
Emotions were pushed higher near the end of the three-hour protest when two men walked through the crowd carrying swastika flags, a move many Save Our State activists said they opposed.



This will ruin the legitimate opposition for closing the borders, and gaining control over the illegal immigration issue. As others have stated, I will state again. I find the Nazi flag just as offensive as the Mexican flag, or any other flag that flies in defiance of the United States.

Any racial supremist group is against the constitution of the United States.

SaveOurState
07-31-2005, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by California Yanqui@Jul 31 2005, 04:30 PM
Emotions were pushed higher near the end of the three-hour protest when two men walked through the crowd carrying swastika flags, a move many Save Our State activists said they opposed.



This will ruin the legitimate opposition for closing the borders, and gaining control over the illegal immigration issue. As others have stated, I will state again. I find the Nazi flag just as offensive as the Mexican flag, or any other flag that flies in defiance of the United States.

Any racial supremist group is against the constitution of the United States.
Please see the thread in the Strategies forum.

For what it is worth, the article is a little inaccurate. They didnt walk through the opposition with their flags. They actually were on the opposite side of the street from the goons.

A minor thing...but I wanted to point that out.

Obviously...nazi flags are incredibly detrimental.

thecreeper
07-31-2005, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by mixbreed@Jul 31 2005, 12:55 PM
I'm sick of these people. I had to spend $7,000.00 for general liability insurance this year. I can't afford to even hire a trainee. I don't know what the rate is now, but in early 90's for an employee that made less than $19.00 per hour, I would have to pay 33% of what he made to workers compensation, match what he paid in social security. That's all I want to do, is make a living. Why in the hell is it costing so much to do that.
This fullfills their goal of a communist nation. Once private employers are eliminated, the only option will be government servitude. pass the borch.

BorderRaven
07-31-2005, 06:04 PM
Did someone walk through the SOS group, with a Nazi flag, un-opposed? Do you mean, it wasn't violently ripped from their hands, and destroyed on the spot, while others pummeled them?

Where is the conviction of purpose?

Cat Patrol
07-31-2005, 06:45 PM
Did someone walk through the SOS group, with a Nazi flag, un-opposed? Do you mean, it wasn't violently ripped from their hands, and destroyed on the spot, while others pummeled them?


Easy to question such a thing, when you werent even there.

Oldpreach
07-31-2005, 10:51 PM
Okay now, how about we just point out the facts. The fact happens to be that we can no more rip it away than we can rip the Mex flag away from the goons. Hello misdy property damage charge....