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Ghost
08-06-2005, 10:50 PM
Officials point to safety concerns
By Elena Gaona
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
August 6, 2005

CARLSBAD – A town hall discussion on illegal immigration scheduled for next week will not be held on the campus of Carlsbad High School as planned.

School officials said the event posed a potential risk of damage to the facility and could jeopardize members of the audience.

Organizers said the event will take place next week at an unspecified venue.

"We're in a holding pattern," said Wade Teasdale, an aide to Republican state Sen. Bill Morrow. "We're looking for another location right now."

Morrow is sponsoring the town forum called "The Illegal Immigration Crisis: A Frank Discussion." It is to examine how illegal immigration impacts health care, homeland security, education, the economy and the environment. The forum has been endorsed by the Republican Women Federated Board.

Speakers are to include U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., an outspoken opponent of illegal immigration; James W. Gilchrist of Aliso Viejo, founder of the MinuteMan Project; Los Angeles medical attorney and author Madeleine Cosman, who writes about the health costs of illegal immigration; and Pete Nuñez, former U.S. Attorney in San Diego, who has favored reducing immigration levels. Roger Hedgecock, a conservative radio talk-show host and former San Diego mayor, will serve as moderator.

Morrow's staff thought that by now they would be working on final details of the event scheduled for Thursday at 7 p.m., but one week before the discussion was to take place inside the remodeled Carlsbad Community Cultural Arts Center on the campus of Carlsbad High School, Superintendent John A. Roach denied use of the theater.

He cited recent emotional outbursts that turned into altercations at demonstrations and counter-demonstrations regarding illegal immigration.

In a letter Roach faxed reaffirming his refusal of use of the theater, which was originally conveyed to Morrow's office by telephone on Wednesday, Roach said that district rules allowed him to "refuse the use of the Cultural Arts Center if an event poses an unreasonable risk of damage to the facility, equipment or furnishing, and that might jeopardize the security, health and well-being of an audience of the community.

"Based on my understanding of the recent events in Garden Grove, Baldwin Park and Campo, it is my belief that the event you had planned poses exactly such a risk."

On May 14 in Baldwin Park, police in riot gear were sent in to calm angry protesters and counter-protesters over a 20-foot public monument that says "this" land, where the monument is located, has belonged and always will belong to the Indian and Mexican peoples.

On May 25 in Garden Grove, a motorist there to attend an appearance by Gilchrist injured two of the hundreds of protesters who also showed up.

On July 16 in Campo, an aide to Morrow filed a police report stating he had been kicked by a man he identified as a UC Riverside professor who was protesting the California Minuteman Project set up there to watch for illegal border-crossers.

Other illegal immigration-focused events have pitted protesters and counter-protesters in scuffles, shouting matches and finger-wagging.

The Carlsbad school district office has received numerous calls from citizens upset by the cancellation, a secretary said yesterday.

Morrow's office said organizers intend to nail down a location for the rescheduled event by Monday.

Silvia Berrios, an Oceanside businesswoman, said she plans to attend the forum, not to cause trouble, but to present a different point of view than those expressed by the speakers.

"I'm not going to be violent, but I want to show that, personally, I contribute much more to this country than (alleged by) the one-sided show they're presenting to the public," said Berrios, an immigrant from El Salvador.

The town hall is still welcome in the city, said Carlsbad police Lt. Bill Rowland.

"This is an emotional thing for both sides," he said, and the goal of police is to oversee a gathering that allows for "peaceful expression on both sides."

Nonetheless, he said, "We're prepared to handle whatever situation comes up."



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Elena Gaona: (760) 737-7575; elena.gaona@uniontrib.com

sosal
08-06-2005, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Ghost@Aug 6 2005, 08:50 PM

Silvia Berrios, an Oceanside businesswoman, said she plans to attend the forum, not to cause trouble, but to present a different point of view than those expressed by the speakers.

"I'm not going to be violent, but I want to show that, personally, I contribute much more to this country than (alleged by) the one-sided show they're presenting to the public," said Berrios, an immigrant from El Salvador.

Looks like some attention is finaly being payed to the problem of illegal immigration

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Otherwise,

Is this woman here illegaly?

What sort of business is she in?

Does she employ American citizens, or those here legaly, as opposed to illegal Aliens?

Does she comply with all laws pertaining to her business, including licences, permits, and labor law?

If she is here legaly and complies with the law, why does she need to make a declaration for her contribution to America?

ohighlass
08-07-2005, 09:59 AM
Yes, I give in, UNCLE! YES, there is a need for some immigrants. AND, SO? Coming to work here is one thing. Attaching to our social services as a life style is not.

Work runs out, or they lose their jobs, they turn to crime to rape and destroy the "rich, lazy, Americans", who, after all owe them something, because someone told them that their great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfathers stole it all from you and your ancestors anyway. :blink:

This looks like one town hall meeting that should NOT be missed! Go early, get a good seat. Where ever!

SaveOurState
08-07-2005, 05:30 PM
Interesting.

Oldpreach
08-07-2005, 10:57 PM
This was also mentioned on worldnetdaily.com, a very popular conservative web news source.

I think it would good for some of us in this area to go to this once the new location is determined. Pass out flyers and biz cards and such.





WND INVASION USA
Illegal-immigration forum
barred by school officials
Scheduled event nixed over risk of damage to facility, feared injury to audience members
Posted: August 6, 2005
7:05 p.m. Eastern


© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

A town hall meeting scheduled by a California legislator to discuss illegal immigration has been told to find a new location after officials at the planned high school site said they feared altercations could damage the facility or injure those in attendance.

The forum, "The Illegal Immigration Crisis: A Frank Discussion," sponsored by Republican state Sen. Bill Morrow, was scheduled for Thursday evening at Carlsbad High School in San Diego County. The town meeting is also endorsed by the Republican Women Federated Board, a GOP volunteer group.

A week before the event, Morrow's office was contacted by Superintendent John A. Roach who denied use of the newly remodeled Carlsbad Community Cultural Arts Center on the high school campus, citing emotional outbursts and scuffles at other demonstrations over illegal immigration.

Despite Morrow's event being a town hall meeting held by an elected official and not a demonstration, Roach cited district rules allowing him to "refuse the use of the Cultural Arts Center if an event poses an unreasonable risk of damage to the facility, equipment or furnishing, and that might jeopardize the security, health and well-being of an audience of the community."

"Based on my understanding of the recent events in Garden Grove, Baldwin Park and Campo," Roach told Morrow's office, "it is my belief that the event you had planned poses exactly such a risk."

In May, a large contingent of police was called into calm protestors and counter-protestors at a taxpayer-funded memorial that proclaimed "This land was Mexican once, was Indian always and is, and will be again." As reported by WorldNetDaily, SaveOurState.org, a nonprofit anti-illegal immigration organization was calling on Baldwin Park officials to remove the memorial for its "anti-American message."

Three weeks ago, an aide to Morrow told police he had been assaulted by a U.C. Riverside professor who was protesting the California Minuteman Project in the city of Campo.

A Carlsbad school district office secretary told the San Diego Union-Tribune the cancellation had resulted in numerous calls from upset Carlsbad citizens.

A spokesman for Morrow's office says the town hall meeting is still planned for Thursday and a new location will be identified by Monday.

Scheduled speakers include U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project, Los Angeles medical attorney and author Madeleine Cosman, and Pete Nuñez, former U.S. Attorney in San Diego. Conservative radio host and former San Diego mayor will moderate the town hall event.

AyatollahGondola
08-07-2005, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Oldpreach@Aug 7 2005, 09:57 PM
This was also mentioned on worldnetdaily.com, a very popular conservative web news source.

I think it would good for some of us in this area to go to this once the new location is determined. Pass out flyers and biz cards and such.





WND INVASION USA
Illegal-immigration forum
barred by school officials
Scheduled event nixed over risk of damage to facility, feared injury to audience members
Posted: August 6, 2005
7:05 p.m. Eastern


© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

A town hall meeting scheduled by a California legislator to discuss illegal immigration has been told to find a new location after officials at the planned high school site said they feared altercations could damage the facility or injure those in attendance.

The forum, "The Illegal Immigration Crisis: A Frank Discussion," sponsored by Republican state Sen. Bill Morrow, was scheduled for Thursday evening at Carlsbad High School in San Diego County. The town meeting is also endorsed by the Republican Women Federated Board, a GOP volunteer group.

A week before the event, Morrow's office was contacted by Superintendent John A. Roach who denied use of the newly remodeled Carlsbad Community Cultural Arts Center on the high school campus, citing emotional outbursts and scuffles at other demonstrations over illegal immigration.

Despite Morrow's event being a town hall meeting held by an elected official and not a demonstration, Roach cited district rules allowing him to "refuse the use of the Cultural Arts Center if an event poses an unreasonable risk of damage to the facility, equipment or furnishing, and that might jeopardize the security, health and well-being of an audience of the community."

"Based on my understanding of the recent events in Garden Grove, Baldwin Park and Campo," Roach told Morrow's office, "it is my belief that the event you had planned poses exactly such a risk."

In May, a large contingent of police was called into calm protestors and counter-protestors at a taxpayer-funded memorial that proclaimed "This land was Mexican once, was Indian always and is, and will be again." As reported by WorldNetDaily, SaveOurState.org, a nonprofit anti-illegal immigration organization was calling on Baldwin Park officials to remove the memorial for its "anti-American message."

Three weeks ago, an aide to Morrow told police he had been assaulted by a U.C. Riverside professor who was protesting the California Minuteman Project in the city of Campo.

A Carlsbad school district office secretary told the San Diego Union-Tribune the cancellation had resulted in numerous calls from upset Carlsbad citizens.

A spokesman for Morrow's office says the town hall meeting is still planned for Thursday and a new location will be identified by Monday.

Scheduled speakers include U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project, Los Angeles medical attorney and author Madeleine Cosman, and Pete Nuñez, former U.S. Attorney in San Diego. Conservative radio host and former San Diego mayor will moderate the town hall event.
So all we have to do when the illegal alien proponents have a forum is call in and point out baldwin parks water bottle attack, GG's "accident", or any other aggravated threat and say we are going to show up too, and that will end all the illegal alien gatherings? I'm sorry, but this looks like a violation of amendment numero uno.

LambsMarch
08-09-2005, 08:33 AM
Well, that's going to be a sticky issue. Government officials and even private people do have the right to protect and responsibility to taxpayers in some cases, to protect property. if they don't have the police protection, they can say no.

This is what the counterprotesters have wanted since day one: to make such a fuss no one will let us meet anywhere. From what I heard this almost hapened in Las VEgas and in Phoenix. I guess then we'll have to do it on public property like a beach or BLM or park or something. Well geez standing under God's open sky never bothered me.